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The Movie & Story => News Coverage, Reviews & Awards => Topic started by: Bob on Feb 14, 2006, 02:52 PM
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Read an article on MSNBC, under the Entertainment section at the following address: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11257793/ concerning a list of Hollywood's most memorable screen kisses - everyone should contact the article writer asking why he didn't include the kiss from BBM. Ha Ha.
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Quick: Name a great kissing scene in the movies.
I think it's safe to presume that anyone in here, if given that q, would instantly and with no hesitation say "the reunion kiss" and not even bother to say "in Brokeback Mountain" :-*
this actor and that actress are going to kiss.
And I think that answers the q of why BBM is not on his list >:(
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That truly F*&%%%kng pissed me off, I send him a e-mail. Maybe I get to woundup but when it comes to kisses how on hell can they say that the lady and the tramp from disney cartoons counts as a f***ng kiss. This is truly over the top, a kiss is sanctimonious and it is never in my eyes to be render as useless and demeaned in such a way as to cartoon character being more important than a human being, oh well may as well include the beauty and the beast and shrek in the pot. dont anyone have any decency these days that they have to lower their standards to a point that relates to far gone and oblitared films that means little to someone who appreciate the value of tenderness and passion, for the love of life what world do we live in. just when we learned that undying love is showing its grace, the other ingnorant majority goes and kills it with kisses from cartoons.
sorry guy's but I am pissed.
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That truly F*&%%%kng pissed me off, I send him a e-mail. Maybe I get to woundup but when it comes to kisses how on hell can they say that the lady and the tramp from disney cartoons counts as a f***ng kiss. This is truly over the top, a kiss is sanctimonious and it is never in my eyes to be render as useless and demeaned in such a way as to cartoon character being more important than a human being, oh well may as well include the beauty and the beast and shrek in the pot. dont anyone have any decency these days that they have to lower their standards to a point that relates to far gone and oblitared films that means little to someone who appreciate the value of tenderness and passion, for the love of life what world do we live in. just when we learned that undying love is showing its grace, the other ingnorant majority goes and kills it with kisses from cartoons.
sorry guy's but I am pissed.
Frenchcda i'm completely with you on this-i remebr seeing lady and tramp when i was about 4 but don't remember thinking wow-that kiss-thats what lifes all about-its cartoon doggies for f*cks sake. Just remember people that vote for this are pathetic saddos thta don't have the right to see a truly great masterpiece such as BBM, let them stick with home alone 8 or Jumanji-the return, or whatever the hell is playing to the 'mainstream' audience xxx
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Just received an e-mail back and I guess I jumped the gun before it was loaded, he did mention BBM here is part of the article: The desperate kiss
Two people need each other, hunger for each other, want to merge into one another. Often something is keeping them apart; often their affair is illicit. In “Casablanca,” Rick and Ilsa (Bogart and Bergman) have to worry about poor cuckolded Victor Laszlo, a great war hero, for whom they will have to give up their love. But in the meantime: Pucker up. For Sgt. Milton Warden and Karen Holmes (Lancaster and Kerr) in “From Here to Eternity,” it’s cuckolded Capt. Dana “Dynamite” Holmes (who apparently isn’t so dynamite), who is the sergeant’s superior (at least in the military). But in the meantime: Let’s roll around the beach as waves crash upon us. It’s the Hollywood kiss with the addition of “wet” and “prone.” Never underestimate the power of “wet” and “prone.”
In both of these scenes the men are pretty cool customers while the women melt, but men in the movies can get desperate as well. The best recent example is in “Brokeback Mountain,” when Jack and Ennis meet again after four years apart, and discover, during their initial hug, four years of unspent passion. Why is this kiss memorable? Because it’s unexpected, and rough, and they risk so much for it (life itself, you could say). There is anger as well as love in it. Hollywood often sweeps this untidy fact under the carpet but anger should be part of a desperate kiss. Think of it. I’m me. I’m happy being me. But then you come along and make me need you. You’ve got your nerve.
That’s why my favorite desperate kiss is between good ol’ George Bailey and Mary Hatch (James Stewart and Donna Reed) as they listen on the phone to that ass Sam Wainwright blabbing away in “It’s a Wonderful Life.” George knows that if he kisses Mary he’s giving up everything for her — his last chance to shake the dust of this crummy town off his shoes and see the world. Who wouldn’t be mad? Jimmy Stewart is a smart enough actor to show that anger. Still, he kisses her and the next thing you know they’re married. The scene I want is post-coital. Is he still happy? Still in love? Or is he thinking: “What the hell did I just do?” ;D ;D ;D
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I read that article earlier today at work, and I am glad to see that the information contained in this thread has been corrected. I was looking for Brokeback Mountain in that article, and was so happy when I found it....."In both of these scenes the men are pretty cool customers while the women melt, but men in the movies can get desperate as well. The best recent example is in “Brokeback Mountain,” when Jack and Ennis meet again after four years apart, and discover, during their initial hug, four years of unspent passion. Why is this kiss memorable? Because it’s unexpected, and rough, and they risk so much for it (life itself, you could say). There is anger as well as love in it. Hollywood often sweeps this untidy fact under the carpet but anger should be part of a desperate kiss. Think of it. I’m me. I’m happy being me. But then you come along and make me need you. You’ve got your nerve."
I would love to be kissed the way Ennis kisses Jack in that scene! :)
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Hey all, after re-reading the article I in fact owe an apology to Erik Lundegaard (contributor, MSNBC) as he in fact does mention the kiss from Brokeback Mountain - guess this was one of my off days and I totally missed it.
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This reminded me of a passage from one of my favorite books, The Pricess Bride by William Goldman. Although it refers to the characters in the story, I couldn't help but think about the reunion kiss.
"There have been five great kisses since 1642 B.C., when Saul and Delilah Korn's inadvertent discovery swept across Western civilization. (Before then couples hooked thumbs.) And the precise rating of kisses is a terribly difficult thing, often leading to great controversy, because although everyone agrees with the formula of affection times purity times intensity times duration, no one has ever been completely satisfied with how much weight each element should receive. But on any system, there are five that everyone agrees deserve full marks.
Well, this one left them all behind."
:)
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This reminded me of a passage from one of my favorite books, The Pricess Bride by William Goldman. Although it refers to the characters in the story, I couldn't help but think about the reunion kiss.
"There have been five great kisses since 1642 B.C., when Saul and Delilah Korn's inadvertent discovery swept across Western civilization. (Before then couples hooked thumbs.) And the precise rating of kisses is a terribly difficult thing, often leading to great controversy, because although everyone agrees with the formula of affection times purity times intensity times duration, no one has ever been completely satisfied with how much weight each element should receive. But on any system, there are five that everyone agrees deserve full marks.
Well, this one left them all behind." :)
Thankx ;D
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"Well, this one left them all behind."
I loved that line in The Princess Bride. But, as passionate as Wesley and Buttercup's kiss was, it pales besides Ennis and Jack's. In fact, if Ennis and Jack's kiss had been any more passionate, I don't think either one of them would have survived it! It reminded me a little of a Klingon mating ritual, both partners walking away bruised and limping. ;D
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In fact, if Ennis and Jack's kiss had been any more passionate, I don't think either one of them would have survived it! It reminded me a little of a Klingon mating ritual, both partners walking away bruised and limping, Couldn't agree more, but every time I see them kissing the way they did it in the tent and by the stairs , it gets me all teared up
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In the Washington Post today (December 9, 2008) there is an article entitled, "Why Can't A Kiss Just Be a Kiss," which examines the mini media hysteria about guy-to-guy kissing in the movie, "Milk." It discusses previous movies, including Brokeback Mountain, and has a couple of quotes from Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal.
Hope this link works:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/08/AR2008120803777.html?hpid=features1&hpv=national
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how about the kiss in "A walk to remember" Mandy moore and shane west. #s}