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Title: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on Apr 27, 2011, 12:06 PM
I found a script from 2003 online and I saw a scene that wasn't in the final movie. It's an unused scene from the Twist Ranch. You know how Ennis has a flashback during the reunion of seeing Earl's body? Well during the unused scene while talking to Jack's father, Ennis appears to have another, but as the camera pans up, he doesn't see Earl, he sees Jack.

How scary is that? I'm glad this went unused, I don't think I could have coped :-\\ the tire iron scene was bad enough :-\\ 
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: rdx on Apr 28, 2011, 12:11 PM
Thanks kitty for the 'tip'; I found the script too.

An interesting flashback indeed, but, I think, it would have been 'too much' after the Ennis-Lureen conversation on the phone. It was/is so obvious that it was the tire iron...
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on Apr 28, 2011, 12:18 PM
Thanks kitty for the 'tip'; I found the script too.

An interesting flashback indeed, but, I think, it would have been 'too much' after the Ennis-Lureen conversation on the phone. It was/is so obvious that it was the tire iron...

Yep, cruel irony at its best :-\\

I couldn't have coped with seeing Jack's body the way we see Earl's :_(
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: jackster on Apr 28, 2011, 02:31 PM
This sounds like an attempt to visualize what is in the SS when John Twist is talking to Ennis and says:

"Then this spring he's got another one's goin' a come up here with him and build a place and help run the ranch, some ranch neighbor a his from down in Texas. He's goin' a split up with his wife and come back here. So he says. But like most a Jack's ideas it never come to pass."

So now he knew it had been the tire iron."


Ennis's vision here of Jack and "another one" confirming that Jack had been found out and dispatched like Earl. I'd agree, when combined with the previous vision Ennis had when talking with Lureen it'd be too much. Of course if the Lureen vision had not been used in the film then it might have been necessary to include it here in order to make the connection with Ennis's own confirmation that it had been the tire iron and not an accident.
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: rdx on Apr 29, 2011, 04:49 AM
Right on jackster & kitty.

There are also some other interesting pieces in the 2003 script; i.e. the motel scene is somewhat longer and it retains some important conversation from the SS.
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on Apr 29, 2011, 06:06 AM
Right on jackster & kitty.

There are also some other interesting pieces in the 2003 script; i.e. the motel scene is somewhat longer and it retains some important conversation from the SS.

I wish the motel scene could've been longer in other ways, if you catch my drift ^-^
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: myprivatejack on May 03, 2011, 09:43 AM
I only have the definitive script...If you could tell me where I can find this one from 2003,I will thank you very much   :)
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on May 03, 2011, 09:52 AM
Sure, here you go :)

http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf (http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf)
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on May 03, 2011, 10:22 AM
I've just seen something else. The scene where Jack's peeling potatoes while Ennis is washing naked behind him...in this early script, Jack sneaks glances at him now and again ^-^

If only ;D
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: myprivatejack on May 05, 2011, 10:06 AM
Sure, here you go :)

http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf (http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf)

 :t) so much,dear   :^^)
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: Romeo164 on May 07, 2011, 04:10 PM
This may be a case where less is actually more. A less able director or screenwriter might have tried to insert those scenes to help the audience along with the emotion, but that would have been less effective in the end, I think.

Thanks for the info kitty.
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on May 08, 2011, 07:09 AM
This may be a case where less is actually more. A less able director or screenwriter might have tried to insert those scenes to help the audience along with the emotion, but that would have been less effective in the end, I think.

Thanks for the info kitty.

I think the tire iron scene was only just tolerable cos it's over pretty quickly and Jack's face is upside down on screen and harder to see, you know? If the camera lingered over his body like it does in the Earl flashback, that would have been too much :-\\
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: chowhound on May 19, 2011, 11:45 AM
There are a number of intermediate scripts between the one Kitty has mentioned - Feb 1/2003 -  and the final script of of April 16/May 5, 2004 but this particular scene makes it through all the intermediate revisions and it was Ang Lee who finally decided to cut it though it may well have been filmed. In an interview Ang talks about how he felt the inclusion of the flashback didn't fit in with the emotional tensions in Ennis's meeting with Jack's parents.
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: kitty on May 19, 2011, 11:50 AM
I'm glad it was cut, I could not have coped seeing Jack or Jake like that, I saw that deleted scene from Donnie Darko *shudders* :-\\

And you're right, it wouldn't have fit in, the scene is supposed to be about Ennis's heartbreak over losing Jack and looking for some solace and closure. It wouldn't have done him any good to keep dwelling on how it happened, and if you can't fix it you've gotta stand it, remember? :-\\
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: Rubyblue on May 19, 2011, 01:15 PM
Sure, here you go :)

http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf (http://finearts.uvic.ca/writing/websites/writ203/screenplays/award_winning/brokeback_mountain.pdf)


Wow, thansk for this Kitty, i have some pre bed reading tonight!
Title: Re: An unused scene from an early script
Post by: Mahogany on Sep 22, 2019, 07:13 PM
Whatever
All that was just Ennis' imagination

Jack wasn't murdered