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Offline Magnificat

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The Mixing of the Sheep
« on: Feb 01, 2006, 07:03 AM »
I am currently reading the short story and I just got to the part where ther's the sheep mix-up. "In a disquieting way everything seemed mixed". I think this is a powerful image of Jake and Ennis's inner turmoil. Nothing will be the same again after that summer. I didn't get it from the film but I did from the short story. Things cannot go back to the way they were not they can take the course both the protagonists wanted. They are not able to correctly divide the sheep as they cannot correctly divide their emotions for each other from what, in a way, is required from them by society. In fact, shortly after this their boss comes with some news for Jack and finds theme making love (in the short story).

Aaahhhh... what do you think?

Marco
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Offline garymcd

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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2006, 07:10 AM »
nice observation,  the mixing of the sheep has been a question for me.  the significance of it like so many of the images in this brilliant film!  thanks.
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Offline jakeofrome

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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2006, 09:44 AM »
Yep that's a magnificent quote of the short story, so powerful.
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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2006, 06:28 PM »
oooh. I like this quote too.   ;D
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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2006, 08:02 PM »
Quote from: Magnificat on Feb 01, 2006, 07:03 AM
I am currently reading the short story and I just got to the part where ther's the sheep mix-up. "In a disquieting way everything seemed mixed". I think this is a powerful image of Jake and Ennis's inner turmoil. Nothing will be the same again after that summer. I didn't get it from the film but I did from the short story. Things cannot go back to the way they were not they can take the course both the protagonists wanted. They are not able to correctly divide the sheep as they cannot correctly divide their emotions for each other from what, in a way, is required from them by society. In fact, shortly after this their boss comes with some news for Jack and finds theme making love (in the short story).

Aaahhhh... what do you think?

Marco

Oh, yes... this is one of my favorite scenes... 

"In a disquieting way everything seemed mixed".

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Offline ethan

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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #5 on: Feb 01, 2006, 08:21 PM »
Don't you just love the writing from Annie Proulx? Every day is a discovery because someone pointed out something. And all I can say is

Wow...... :o  :o
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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #6 on: Feb 02, 2006, 05:40 AM »
Hi Marco!!
Just reading the short story i agree with you about sheep mix-up scene. Ennis and Jack preconstituted lifes are completely upset; the new knowledge they had about their feelings places in argument all the "normal way" he had before. This idea of incertitude about their destiny will be confirmed in the motel scene when Ennis couldnt say how to organize his future more than one month..

Luca

PS: che fatica in Inglese!!
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Offline Magnificat

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Re: The Mixing of the Sheep
« Reply #7 on: Feb 02, 2006, 08:15 AM »
Quote from: coguaro on Feb 02, 2006, 05:40 AM
Hi Marco!!
Just reading the short story i agree with you about sheep mix-up scene. Ennis and Jack preconstituted lifes are completely upset; the new knowledge they had about their feelings places in argument all the "normal way" he had before. This idea of incertitude about their destiny will be confirmed in the motel scene when Ennis couldnt say how to organize his future more than one month..

Luca

PS: che fatica in Inglese!!

Hi Luca! How was it last night? I didn't sleep well tonight, some nightmares disturbed my slumber! Was it because of Brokeback Mountain? :-) Who knows... It is true, what you say about the motel scene. Still, they are intimate in a way, even though the short story makes it clear that Jack is lying (the riding part!) about having affairs with other guys, and have the courage to discuss openly their future with one another as most other gay lovers are not able to do. They are just simple guys, still there's something so "real" in them that it makes me wonder...

Marco

P. S. Dai, non č poi cosė difficile scrivere in inglese! Bisogna farci un po' l'abitudine! :-) (Come on, it is not so difficult to write in English! You just need to get used to it!)
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