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Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Re: Jack's Dying Wish
« Last post by jjeff on May 20, 2021, 01:45 PM »
Now that you bring up the "dying wish" it makes me wonder. Why would a relatively young man speculate about his death, especially Jack. Could it be that Jack survived the beating and was able to talk about where he wanted his ashes to be spread before he died. That would make his wife's lie even bigger.
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Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Jack's ghost
« Last post by jjeff on May 20, 2021, 01:24 PM »
Toward the end of the movie, Ennis' life seems empty and miserable. He lives alone in the middle of nowhere in a horrid mobile home. He has deliberately shut out everyone and seems to live entirely in the past. All he really has is the memories of Jack. But I wonder if others see this the way I do. I think he also has Jack's ghost. Right at the end there is a scene in which Ennis buttons the top button of Jacks shirt and says, "Jack, I swear." Knowing the compulsive aspect of the Ennis and the button, I'm sure he has fastened the button before. That only makes sense. I get the feeling, or maybe I like to believe, that Jack keeps unbuttoning the button and Ennis keeps buttoning it again. It is sort of a reflection of Jack's impulsiveness and Ennis' fastidiousness. Is it Jack's ghost just trying to be "sexy"?
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AP Short Story & Screenplay / Comparison between short story and movie
« Last post by jjeff on May 20, 2021, 01:09 PM »
It's too bad there is no activity on this forum. It's been years. Anyway here goes:

I've read the short story a few times. I'm not really a fan of Annie Proulx. I know she is a prize-winning author, but I think she is cynical and negative. The short story is terse and spare. You really have to read between the lines. There isn't a lot there. Proulx could have written an entire book instead of just a few pages. The entire plot line about the wives is missing in the book. There is barely mention of them. The screenplay adds the Thanksgiving episode with the interaction between Jack and his father in law. Actually everything about the wives and the families was not in the story. I like the movie a lot more than the story.

I think this is the saddest movie I've ever seen. It's very sad the way the guys let society and circumstances force them to give up what they love. It's probably the wonderful acting of Heath and Jake. Some of the scenes are truly heart wrenching. In fact, I went for years without watching it because it was so sad. I watching again recently and enjoyed the movie a lot. Maybe I've grown up some.
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Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Jack and Ennis description in the story
« Last post by jjeff on May 20, 2021, 11:55 AM »
I've read the story a few times. It is quite different from the movie. I can't remember the exact details, but Jack had a thick butt with buck teeth and a concave chest and Ennis was thin and wiry. Or maybe Ennis had the concave chest. Later on, Ennis had a growth on his eyelid. Neither one was very appealing. In fact, if you picked a couple of cowboys at random, they would certainly be way more attractive. Annie Proulx always revels in life's less savory aspects and often uses some literary license. She likes to inject a lot of ugliness and stupidity into the characters in her stories. I don't know if she is making a statement about Wyoming or life's underlying sordidness. Anyway, I have often wondered why the movie features Hollywood's biggest studs to play a couple of mostly unattractive characters.

This is my first post.
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All About DVD / Re: DVD Release - Korea
« Last post by pierralex on Feb 22, 2021, 09:39 AM »
You're right, it is a lovely edition. ANd it seems that some of the bonuses are new (to me at least)
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All About DVD / Re: DVD Release - Korea
« Last post by Jack_Nasty on Feb 11, 2021, 02:11 PM »
I think it's the nicest Blu-ray edition so far, here's a video showing it:

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All About DVD / Re: DVD Release - Korea
« Last post by rdx on Apr 22, 2020, 02:28 PM »
Still a new release in South Korea:

Released 3 January 2020. No new extras, though the 36 pages booklet seems interesting.
This is a Korean release on its own, no American / European counterpart.

For some reason the picture doesn't seem to show; you can get the details
here.
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In Memory of Heath Ledger / Re: Vigil for Heath - light a candle
« Last post by rimasworld on Jan 22, 2020, 05:14 PM »

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Not really

BTW, the only "Jack I swear" doesn't mean what you guys pretend to believe.

Stop making up stories to pretend that means what you want to.
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Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Re: An unused scene from an early script
« Last post by Mahogany on Sep 22, 2019, 07:13 PM »
Whatever
All that was just Ennis' imagination

Jack wasn't murdered
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