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From story to screenplay book
« on: Dec 25, 2005, 02:17 PM »
I'm thinking of buying the story to screenplay book and was wondering if anyone else has read it and what they thought of it.  Does the book include the full story and screenplay or is it more a discussion of the challenges of changing the story into a screenplay. Just curious because I'm thinking of buying this. I already have the story so I'm hoping this book has the full screenplay.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #1 on: Dec 25, 2005, 02:30 PM »
I'm thinking of buying the story to screenplay book and was wondering if anyone else has read it and what they thought of it.  Does the book include the full story and screenplay or is it more a discussion of the challenges of changing the story into a screenplay. Just curious because I'm thinking of buying this. I already have the story so I'm hoping this book has the full screenplay.

I want to buy the screenplay book too. Not sure if it has the full screenplay. Have you found anything from bookstores somewhere?
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #2 on: Dec 25, 2005, 07:42 PM »
I want to buy the screenplay book too. Not sure if it has the full screenplay. Have you found anything from bookstores somewhere?

I bought the short story in paperback book form from a local bookstore. They didn't have the story to screenplay book though so I'd have to order it in, which is why I'm curious what's in it. I probably will just buy it though just to have it and be able to read the actual screenplay.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #3 on: Dec 25, 2005, 11:41 PM »
Here are two reviews from Amazon on the From story to screenplay book

"Both the story and screenplay will move you to tears, make you feel like somebody's pulling your guts out hand over hand a yard at a time, as Annie Proulx writes of Ennis. They will also make you treasure love more. Proulx's prose is pure poetry. The screenplay is one of the best I've read -- a terrific read and a faithful adaptation and expansion. If you're interested in delving deeper into the lives and loves of these characters and the starkly beautiful honesty of this world, buy this book. The screenplay and the essays by Annie Proulx and the two screenwriters, Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, offer a good deal of insight and color, from the germ of an idea for a short story to final film. Fascinating and powerful. Strongly recommended."

"This little volume contains Annie Proulx's original short story version of BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN as it appeared in The New Yorker in 1997 along with the screenplay to Ang Lee's film by Larry McMurtry (The Last Picture Show, Terms of Endearment) and Diana Ossana. The screenwriters retained much of the spareness, tension, and overt and threatened violence of the original story. They even incorporate much of Proulx's unfilmable descriptions in between the characters' speeches (perhaps as cues for method actors). The biggest change from story to screen seems to be the expanded roles of the women in the men's lives--the wives, girlfriends (created from whole cloth), and Ennis's daughter, Alma Jr. This seems justified, given that the story takes place over twenty years, a period in which both main characters, Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar, carried out a spotty love affair but constructed their public lives according to more conventional mores. Ennis's love of his daughters is, we feel, genuine and not a substitution or consolation prize. And the fact that she can see her father's loneliness only adds to the pathos of his situation.

Each writer contributes an essay about their experience bringing this story to the big screen. Proulx's "Getting Movied" was especially thoughtful and generous. The volume would have been nicely served, however, had Ang Lee contributed an Introduction. If you're a movie credits geek, this book concludes with the entire closing credits, including the sheep wrangler and bear trainer. Also includes 8 pages of black and white photos from the film.

A nice souvenir for anyone who loves the movie and wants to study it more closely."

I am going to order one for myself.  :)
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #4 on: Dec 26, 2005, 12:30 AM »
 :-[ The book is pre-order at bn.com. won't be available until 12/28



The book is also available at Amazon for $10.88

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #5 on: Dec 26, 2005, 12:14 PM »
Thanks for the info! I'm definitely getting the book especially now that I know it includes pics  :)

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #6 on: Dec 28, 2005, 04:38 PM »
There are 2 used copies on amazon.co.UK £68 minimum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could not believe it. I'll wait and see, but I know I'll buy it when it comes out officially
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #7 on: Dec 30, 2005, 12:13 PM »
I'm def. getting the screen play..the only problem is that I dont have a creditcard and I'm sure you can't find it at any book stores here in Denmark :( Hmmm...that sucks..

Can you get it online somewhere ? As download I mean...

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #8 on: Dec 30, 2005, 07:56 PM »
Can you get it online somewhere ? As download I mean...

Not yet  :-[...and believe me...i've been looking everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #9 on: Jan 03, 2006, 06:05 PM »
I'm thinking of buying the story to screenplay book and was wondering if anyone else has read it and what they thought of it.  Does the book include the full story and screenplay or is it more a discussion of the challenges of changing the story into a screenplay. Just curious because I'm thinking of buying this. I already have the story so I'm hoping this book has the full screenplay.

Yes, the book includes the full story and the entire original screenplay.  As I mentioned in another thread, it also contains 3 wonderful essays from the authors and some black and white photos.

I fully recommend buying this.  The screenplay is complete, although has some differences with some of the final movie scenes and lines.  These differences give us some wonderful insights into how the whole thing evolved.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #10 on: Jan 19, 2006, 04:06 PM »
I'm thinking of buying the story to screenplay book and was wondering if anyone else has read it and what they thought of it.  Does the book include the full story and screenplay or is it more a discussion of the challenges of changing the story into a screenplay. Just curious because I'm thinking of buying this. I already have the story so I'm hoping this book has the full screenplay.

Yes, the book includes the full story and the entire original screenplay.  As I mentioned in another thread, it also contains 3 wonderful essays from the authors and some black and white photos.

I fully recommend buying this.  The screenplay is complete, although has some differences with some of the final movie scenes and lines.  These differences give us some wonderful insights into how the whole thing evolved.

So, it includles the original Dead Line, Ltd. publication of Annie Proulx's story, too? I will have to wait before I can buy the screenplay version of the story. Us folks on poverty level and fixed-retirement income only have so much money for entertainment purposes each month.

In my Gay-Members-Onlly BbM Yahoo Group, I do plan to show the differences between the original Annie Proulx story and the screenplay version of BbM. I do some of the comparisons now with what I remember from seeing the movie and reading the paperback book, too. While the paperback book might be called "soft-cover" since it is not a cloth-covered bound book like higher priced books, the cover of the book is made from very stiff card stock which is different from most paperback book covers. 
(Ennis) is suffused with a sense of pleasure because Jack Twist was in his dream . . . lets a panel of the dream slide forward . . . it might stoke the day, rewarm that old, cold time on the mountain when they owned the world and nothing seemed wrong.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #11 on: Jan 19, 2006, 04:13 PM »
So, it includles the original Dead Line, Ltd. publication of Annie Proulx's story, too? I will have to wait before I can buy the screenplay version of the story. Us folks on poverty level and fixed-retirement income only have so much money for entertainment purposes each month.

In my Gay-Members-Onlly BbM Yahoo Group, I do plan to show the differences between the original Annie Proulx story and the screenplay version of BbM. I do some of the comparisons now with what I remember from seeing the movie and reading the paperback book, too. While the paperback book might be called "soft-cover" since it is not a cloth-covered bound book like higher priced books, the cover of the book is made from very stiff card stock which is different from most paperback book covers. 

Hello TJ.  Hope you can browse the Story to Screenplay book in one of the bookstores.  There are very interesting differences between the story (as is published in 'Close Range'), the screenplay, and the final film.  Some of these differences are posted in various threads in the forum.  Hopefully, more discussion of the interesting differences come up in the near future.

In my opinion, the screenplay is as much of a work of art as the story.  The screenplay is not as visceral, but nonetheless beautifully done.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #12 on: Jan 19, 2006, 06:28 PM »
The book also has nice articles by Proulx and the screen writers.  I really enjoy having it.
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #13 on: Jan 29, 2006, 04:44 AM »
I've noticed: Ennis's second daughter "Francine" in the book is "Jenny" in the film.
Just a detail. A collateral damage of my PBS ;D
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #14 on: Jan 29, 2006, 01:24 PM »
I've noticed: Ennis's second daughter "Francine" in the book is "Jenny" in the film.
Just a detail. A collateral damage of my PBS ;D

I've heard other people say that her name was Jenny.  where do you get this information?  I thought she was referred to as Frannie.  Interisting...

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #15 on: Jan 29, 2006, 02:01 PM »
I have a copy of "Close Range" and bought the "Story to Screenplay" so I could read the screenplay.  The added essays, as has been mentioned, are very good especially Annie Proulx's "Getting Movied".


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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #16 on: Jan 29, 2006, 08:45 PM »
I've noticed: Ennis's second daughter "Francine" in the book is "Jenny" in the film.
Just a detail. A collateral damage of my PBS ;D

I've heard other people say that her name was Jenny.  where do you get this information?  I thought she was referred to as Frannie.  Interisting...

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In the french translation her name is Francine. I also downloaded the story in english (I can't remember where) and...
A little copy/paste:
"The door opened again a few inches and Alma stood in the narrow light.
What could he say? "Alma, this is Jack Twist, Jack, my wife Alma." His chest was heaving. He could smell Jack -- the intensely familiar odor of cigarettes, musky sweat and a faint sweetness like grass, and with it the rushing cold of the mountain. "Alma," he said, "Jack and me ain't seen each other in four years." As if it were a reason. He was glad the light was dim on the landing but did not turn away from her.
"Sure enough," said Alma in a low voice. She had seen what she had seen. Behind her in the room lightning lit the window like a white sheet waving and the baby cried.
"You got a kid?" said Jack. His shaking hand grazed Ennis's hand, electrical current snapped between them.
"Two little girls," Ennis said. "Alma Jr. and Francine. Love them to pieces." Alma's mouth twitched."
Also on "Characters and Quotes" see the topic"Jack Jnr and Francine"
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #17 on: Jan 29, 2006, 08:48 PM »
I've noticed: Ennis's second daughter "Francine" in the book is "Jenny" in the film.
Just a detail. A collateral damage of my PBS ;D

I've heard other people say that her name was Jenny.  where do you get this information?  I thought she was referred to as Frannie.  Interisting...

Jim
In the french translation her name is Francine. I also downloaded the story in english (I can't remember where) and...
A little copy/paste:
"The door opened again a few inches and Alma stood in the narrow light.
What could he say? "Alma, this is Jack Twist, Jack, my wife Alma." His chest was heaving. He could smell Jack -- the intensely familiar odor of cigarettes, musky sweat and a faint sweetness like grass, and with it the rushing cold of the mountain. "Alma," he said, "Jack and me ain't seen each other in four years." As if it were a reason. He was glad the light was dim on the landing but did not turn away from her.
"Sure enough," said Alma in a low voice. She had seen what she had seen. Behind her in the room lightning lit the window like a white sheet waving and the baby cried.
"You got a kid?" said Jack. His shaking hand grazed Ennis's hand, electrical current snapped between them.
"Two little girls," Ennis said. "Alma Jr. and Francine. Love them to pieces." Alma's mouth twitched."
Also on "Characters and Quotes" see the topic"Jack Jnr and Francine"


Thanks for the quote Pierre.  I am trying to find information on "Jenny"   Any ideas?

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #18 on: Feb 01, 2006, 04:48 PM »
ABSOLUTELY buy this book - it contains the full original story, the full screenplay (although not the actual final version of every line filmed), and three essays, a wonderful one by Proulx on being a writer, one by McMurtry and one by Ossana.  Essential stuff for any BBM fan.

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 01, 2006, 05:18 PM »
Buy the book.  You'll love it.

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #20 on: Feb 01, 2006, 06:14 PM »
Yes. I bought Close Range, From Story to Screenplay, soundtrack and others with BBM imaginable. Magazines with BBM on the covers.

I bought them for gifts and I am patiently waiting for DVD to come out so I can buy a bunch.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 02, 2006, 10:29 AM »
If I might divert the thread a little, your comment, Ethan is one I've had rolling around in my head for a while - I'm actually considering buying TONS of the BBM DVD (and maybe books) and giving them to every single person I know.  You certainly aren't alone in that, so I wonder if it's just us two, or..

Is anyone else planning to give this movie to a huge number of people when it comes out on DVD?

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #22 on: Feb 02, 2006, 02:10 PM »
If I might divert the thread a little, your comment, Ethan is one I've had rolling around in my head for a while - I'm actually considering buying TONS of the BBM DVD (and maybe books) and giving them to every single person I know.  You certainly aren't alone in that, so I wonder if it's just us two, or..

Is anyone else planning to give this movie to a huge number of people when it comes out on DVD?

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #24 on: Feb 03, 2006, 11:40 PM »
Just got the Screenplay book today.
Love AP's essay!!!
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 04, 2006, 10:52 AM »
proulxfan, I knew you would. 

have you listened to her audio interview on 'Bookworm'?

It's about 30 minutes, realplayer, and well worth it.  She has a lot to say about the writing, the characters, and the movie (she loved Jake's Jack, even though it differed from her conception, and she was frightened by Ledger because he got deeper into Ennis and deeper into her head than she ever had.)

http://kcrw.com/cgi-bin/ram_wrap.cgi?/bw/bw060119Annie_Proulx

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #26 on: Feb 08, 2006, 10:27 AM »
There are three books avaliable

Story to Screenplay is a great one - includes Proulx’s short story, McMurtry and Ossana’s screenplay and essays from all three on the process of adapting the story for the screen. I highly recommend this book. There is also a topic about this HERE



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There is an audible version available.

The LINK will bring you to Amazon for complete list of Brokeback Mountain products including the soundtrack, short story and others.

Close Range is the book written by Annie Proulx which contains the short story of BBM.
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #27 on: Feb 08, 2006, 12:40 PM »
Is there a thread for the audio version (read by Campbell Scott)?  I found it underwhelming, sad to say.  I could still listen to it (it's Proulx, and our boys, after all), but his reading of it sure lacked the spark it needed.  Having seen the movie, I really wanted to hear the power of those voices.  JMHO

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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #28 on: Feb 08, 2006, 06:26 PM »
Have pre-ordered it on Amazon!!!
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Re: From story to screenplay book
« Reply #29 on: Feb 09, 2006, 01:00 PM »
Froggie,
You won't regret it, but have tissues handy when you get to the part where Jack visits Ennis after getting the postcard about Ennis's divorce; it is more wrenching than what you see in the film, and of course it was only a clause in one sentence in the original. And as noted earlier, AP's essay: " Getting Movied", was worth the price of admission-IMHO-all by itself.

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