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Just came back from my 4th viewing of this movie. I could not remember who said to whom. I think it was Jack.

What did Jack say to Ennis before they had the first sex?
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #1 on: Dec 29, 2005, 08:08 PM »
I only heard '' It's ok.. It's ok ''

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2005, 08:09 PM »
I only heard '' It's ok.. It's ok ''

Isn't it what Jack said to Ennis in the second tent scene?
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2005, 08:11 PM »
huh  :-\ maybe, I should go watch this movie again it becomes confusing  :-[

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #4 on: Dec 29, 2005, 08:11 PM »
I only heard '' It's ok.. It's ok ''

Isn't it what Jack said to Ennis in the second tent scene?

yep..I think that's what i saw on the LOGO feature
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #5 on: Dec 29, 2005, 10:32 PM »
the first one nothing was said I believe, the second one he says Its ok it's ok as pointed out here.
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #6 on: Dec 29, 2005, 10:32 PM »
the first one nothing was said I believe, the second one he says Its ok it's ok as pointed out here.
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #7 on: Dec 29, 2005, 10:48 PM »
the first one nothing was said I believe, the second one he says Its ok it's ok as pointed out here.

"I swear" I heard something and it was very short. Maybe I will go for the 5th time.
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #8 on: Dec 30, 2005, 01:52 AM »
Screenplay has Jack only saying "It's allright" twice.

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #9 on: Dec 30, 2005, 01:54 AM »
Screenplay has Jack only saying "It's allright" twice.

"It's all right" is from the greatest love scene of all. That along had my heart melted.

borger1582, you have a copy of the screenplay? If so, I will take your words.  :)
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #10 on: Dec 30, 2005, 11:09 AM »
Actually, I have the book "From Story to Screenplay" (get it at Amazon.com or BN.com) which includes what I belive to be the shooting screenplay - although that doesn't mean the actors and/or the director did not embellish!  And I didn't mean for my post to sound "definitive."   In my three viewings of the film, after reading the posts, I believe only Jack speaks in that scene, and says "it's allright." 

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #11 on: Dec 30, 2005, 07:57 PM »
Actually, I have the book "From Story to Screenplay" (get it at Amazon.com or BN.com) which includes what I belive to be the shooting screenplay - although that doesn't mean the actors and/or the director did not embellish!  And I didn't mean for my post to sound "definitive."   In my three viewings of the film, after reading the posts, I believe only Jack speaks in that scene, and says "it's allright." 

 I have the book "From Story to Screenplay" lucky lucky you...you don't fancy scanning the whole thing and sending it to me do you???? LOL  ;D
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #12 on: Dec 31, 2005, 06:13 AM »
^^^ what she said  ;D

damn I want that screen play so badly !!!

But its on 176 pages, so I dont think borger1582 really wants to use all that time to scan it in. Haha  :o

But you can always dream..*sigh*  ::)
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #13 on: Dec 31, 2005, 12:30 PM »
But you can always dream..*sigh*  ::)

Hope even!!
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #14 on: Dec 31, 2005, 12:54 PM »
Sorry Frog I don't even have a scanner!  But I did order it from Amazon.com and it only took a week to reach me!

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #15 on: Dec 31, 2005, 12:59 PM »
In the uk it's sellinmg at £68 at mo..so i'll wait till the price go down...but i was kidding when i asked for you to scan it!

Thanks anyway  ;D
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #16 on: Dec 31, 2005, 01:22 PM »
Why is it so damn expensive at the UK amazon site ? GAH  :o
 
It's only like 11 dollars on the US site...

I asked my mum if I could use her mastercard, and she let me :D Weee...I just ordered it... *waits*

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #17 on: Dec 31, 2005, 01:33 PM »
Why is it so damn expensive at the UK amazon site ? GAH  :o
 
It's only like 11 dollars on the US site...

I asked my mum if I could use her mastercard, and she let me :D Weee...I just ordered it... *waits*

Yoohoo...i'm happy for you...as for amazon.co.uk...the book isn't out yet...that's why x
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #18 on: Jan 01, 2006, 04:21 AM »
i heared Jack saying "it's alright" two times.. but didn't Ennis say "i'm sorry" first followed by Jack's "it's aright"?!!
i'll try to go see it again tomorrow and listen very closely..
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #19 on: Jan 01, 2006, 12:57 PM »
I saw it the third time last night and Ennis does mutter something in the first scene, in the book it's like "what are you doing?" so it might be that.

In the second, doesn't Jack say come here, very softly before "its alright" and then Ennis says that when they reunite later too, very quietly before the famous throw against the wall...
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #20 on: Jan 01, 2006, 12:58 PM »
I saw it the third time last night and Ennis does mutter something in the first scene, in the book it's like "what are you doing?" so it might be that.

In the second, doesn't Jack say come here, very softly before "its alright" and then Ennis says that when they reunite later too, very quietly before the famous throw against the wall...
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #21 on: Jan 06, 2006, 12:10 AM »
I think Jack says "it's allright, it's allright" in the second tent scene.

But I *know* Ennis says "what are we doin'?" in the first tent scene - it's after Jack takes off his jacket and I remember hearing it the first time and falling more in love with Ennis' character, cause he just sounds like a sleepy, horny, drunken boy who's looking for a little direction after being "rudely" awakened.  Almost as if he's letting Jack call the shots...;)

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #22 on: Jan 06, 2006, 12:14 AM »
I think Jack says "it's allright, it's allright" in the second tent scene.

But I *know* Ennis says "what are we doin'?" in the first tent scene - it's after Jack takes off his jacket and I remember hearing it the first time and falling more in love with Ennis' character, cause he just sounds like a sleepy, horny, drunken boy who's looking for a little direction after being "rudely" awakened.  Almost as if he's letting Jack call the shots...;)

Yeah that's a good way of putting it, he was "acting" freaked out, but was interested. 
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #23 on: Jan 06, 2006, 08:46 AM »
I saw it the third time last night and Ennis does mutter something in the first scene, in the book it's like "what are you doing?" so it might be that.

In the second, doesn't Jack say come here, very softly before "its alright" and then Ennis says that when they reunite later too, very quietly before the famous throw against the wall...

Yes, I believe this is correct.

On the first tent scene, Ennis said to Jack: What're you doing?

Also, both the short story and the screenplay point out that in this scene, Jack took one of Ennis' big hands and placed it on his (i.e., Jack's) groin (Proulx uses the more graphic word, I believe.)

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #24 on: Jan 06, 2006, 10:56 PM »
I saw it the third time last night and Ennis does mutter something in the first scene, in the book it's like "what are you doing?" so it might be that.

In the second, doesn't Jack say come here, very softly before "its alright" and then Ennis says that when they reunite later too, very quietly before the famous throw against the wall...

Yes, I believe this is correct.

On the first tent scene, Ennis said to Jack: What're you doing?

Also, both the short story and the screenplay point out that in this scene, Jack took one of Ennis' big hands and placed it on his (i.e., Jack's) groin (Proulx uses the more graphic word, I believe.)

"What're you doing?" - is this on the screenplay?

Proulx's short story does use a more direct word. Like the rest of short story - fast pace and cut to the point but at the same time leaves ambiguity for interpretation.
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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #25 on: Jan 07, 2006, 05:03 AM »
In the first tent scene I listened tonight carefully. It sure sounds like he says groggily "What are you doing?" Just after Jack takes off the sherpa jacket.

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #26 on: Jan 07, 2006, 11:24 AM »
I just saw it again last night and all I could hear was "it's OK", from Jack, and the grunts and groans.  In the book, Jack mumbles, "Guns going off"

You know Jack wears his heart on his sleeve, but Ennis keeps his deep inside him.  Alma and no one else can get to his heart, except Jack.  Jack knows the direct route to bring Ennis quivering to his knees in a flash. I think it hurts Jack when he does it but he can't help it.  When Ennis is in emotional pain is the only time that Jack knows how Ennis feels.

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #27 on: Jan 09, 2006, 12:35 PM »

"What're you doing?" - is this on the screenplay?

Proulx's short story does use a more direct word. Like the rest of short story - fast pace and cut to the point but at the same time leaves ambiguity for interpretation.

Hi brokebackmountain.  Yes, it is in the screenplay.

I think in the original story, Jack takes Ennis' big hand and wraps it around his...

One can't be more precise than this!

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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #28 on: Jan 10, 2006, 12:04 AM »
quote TPE:

"I think in the original story, Jack takes Ennis' big hand and wraps it around his...
One can't be more precise than this!"


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Re: What did Ennis or Jack say in the first tent scene? (Spoiler)
« Reply #29 on: Feb 27, 2006, 11:51 PM »
no two ways about it, i ain't foolin' and i ain't jokin' :-))

it was the SECOND tent scene.

and ENNIS says 'i'm sorry' TWICE
followed by JACK saying 'it's alright.'