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Offline j

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How about the castration?
« on: Jan 24, 2006, 11:47 AM »
I haven't seen much mentioned about Ennis and castrating the sheep.
Please point me in that direction if it has already been *talked* about .

If not let's talk.: )
J

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 24, 2006, 11:50 AM »
I haven't seen much mentioned about Ennis and castrating the sheep.
Please point me in that direction if it has already been *talked* about .

If not let's talk.: )
J

Hi J, I don't recall that this has been discussed. What specifically do you have in mind to talk about?

How Ennis castrated the sheep? Why is he castrating the sheep? Or why did he mention this to Cassie?

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 24, 2006, 11:53 AM »
I haven't seen much mentioned about Ennis and castrating the sheep.
Please point me in that direction if it has already been *talked* about .

If not let's talk.: )
J

Ennis says that he spent the morning castrating bulls, in reply to Cassie's query regarding what he did.

It emphasizes Ennis' dirt poor and lowly situation in the threshold of middle age.  I also look at it as a Freudian quip.  It suggests Ennis' disinterest in getting involved with another woman. 

20 years of being 'nobody' and 'nowhere'  -- and yet, Ennis' love for Jack endured.
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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 24, 2006, 12:05 PM »
I haven't seen much mentioned about Ennis and castrating the sheep.
Please point me in that direction if it has already been *talked* about .

If not let's talk.: )
J

Hi J, I don't recall that this has been discussed. What specifically do you have in mind to talk about?

How Ennis castrated the sheep? Why is he castrating the sheep? Or why did he mention this to Cassie?



When I first saw Ennis in the field with the sheep on hisback in Ennis's lap I did not know what was happening. I thought maybe he was just having a tender moment with the sheep like  people do with their dogs. Also many people that cannot express thier feelongs do well expressing it to an animal. Catotonic patients are very much like this.

Yes WHY was he castrating the sheep?

And in what scene did he mention it to Cassie as I do not remember.

Thanks!

J

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 24, 2006, 12:20 PM »
When Ennis says that to cassie "spent the morning castrating sheep" or something like that, to me he is saying "there is nothing romantic about me."  And how true that is for him with her.

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 24, 2006, 12:24 PM »
Good point, I mean here is a very attractive girl and he has no "lines " to pull on her.  Tee hee, gotta love Ennis!
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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 24, 2006, 01:23 PM »
I haven't seen much mentioned about Ennis and castrating the sheep.
Please point me in that direction if it has already been *talked* about .

If not let's talk.: )
J

Hi J, I don't recall that this has been discussed. What specifically do you have in mind to talk about?

How Ennis castrated the sheep? Why is he castrating the sheep? Or why did he mention this to Cassie?



When I first saw Ennis in the field with the sheep on hisback in Ennis's lap I did not know what was happening. I thought maybe he was just having a tender moment with the sheep like  people do with their dogs. Also many people that cannot express thier feelongs do well expressing it to an animal. Catotonic patients are very much like this.

Yes WHY was he castrating the sheep?

And in what scene did he mention it to Cassie as I do not remember.

Thanks!

J

I believe Jack and Ennis were helping the sheep to cross the stream - they were probably too young/small or spooked to go across the stream themselves...

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 24, 2006, 01:56 PM »
I saw the sheep in the saddle bag with Ennis crossing the river and yes Ibelieve it wasbecasue they were too young or too spook. This is not where I see him in the ifeld with the sheep in his lap, so this must have been the castratingperiod, which is odd as usually you need some type of fire and cloth and of course the tool. Didn't see any of that
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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 24, 2006, 02:29 PM »
Sheep castration can be performed surgically, chemically, or with something as simple as a rubber band that cuts off blood flow.  I'm not sure what method would have been appropriate for that time.

I know the scene to which you refer.  Jack is in the foreground with a sheep and Ennis to the back right of the screen.  I did not realize that he was performing a castration.  My original impression was that he was tending to the hooves in some way.

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 24, 2006, 02:45 PM »
Sheep castration can be performed surgically, chemically, or with something as simple as a rubber band that cuts off blood flow.  I'm not sure what method would have been appropriate for that time.

I know the scene to which you refer.  Jack is in the foreground with a sheep and Ennis to the back right of the screen.  I did not realize that he was performing a castration.  My original impression was that he was tending to the hooves in some way.

I think you are correct here.

I am almost sure that the only mention of castration in the screenplay was in the scene when Ennis meets Cassie for the first time.  In that scene, Ennis says that he was castrating calfs/bulls that morning -- not sheep.

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Re: How about the castration?
« Reply #10 on: Jan 24, 2006, 04:11 PM »
Looked to me he was tending to an injured hoof on the lamb.

Ennis was castrating "bulls' - male cattle not sheep.
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